I hear, often from tumblr Heathens, about how the Heathen ancestors were ‘all about interracial dating’ that I am in fact the ignorant and hateful person to say they were not. Well.. let us reference Tacitus’ work, Germania, in which we see his view of the time;
For myself, I accept the view that the peoples of Germany have never contaminated themselves by intermarriage with foreigners but remain of pure blood, distinct and unlike any other nation. One result of this is that their physical characteristics, in so far as one can generalize about such a large population, are always the same: fierce-looking blue eyes, reddish hair, and big frame.
Your call tumblr anti-Heathens. What you want to believe, versus a man writing in the first century A.D.
And… what? This is supposed to continue to apply through the Migration and Viking ages? You’re taking the words of a man who never actually went to Germania, from a time when tribes were only just beginning to push far enough south for Rome to care, whose argument is “they all look the same,” an opinion which he probably formulated by exposure to Germanic mercenaries in the Roman military, as evidence that they were opposed to interracial relationships? At this point most Germanic peoples were so geographically isolated that they wouldn’t even have had the opportunity. Note also that Tacitus isn’t even sure — he “accept[s]” what he thinks is more likely of two apparently debated arguments.
By the way, not that it’s important, but you left out the part where he backs up this claim by stating that Germanic peoples are incapable of prolonged physical labor:
All have fierce blue eyes, red hair, huge frames, fit only for a sudden exertion. They are less able to bear laborious work. Heat and thirst they cannot in the least endure; to cold and hunger their climate and their soil inure them.
But this paragraph was not all of the evidence Tacitus presents in favor of this claim:
The Germans themselves I should regard as aboriginal, and not mixed at all with other races through immigration or intercourse. For, in former times it was not by land but on shipboard that those who sought to emigrate would arrive; and the boundless and, so to speak, hostile ocean beyond us, is seldom entered by a sail from our world. And, beside the perils of rough and unknown seas, who would leave Asia, or Africa for Italy for Germany, with its wild country, its inclement skies, its sullen manners and aspect, unless indeed it were his home? In their ancient songs, their only way of remembering or recording the past they celebrate an earth-born god Tuisco, and his son Mannus, as the origin of their race, as their founders.
Tacitus accepts that they are unmixed because nobody would want to mix with them, in particular for the reason that their land sucks so much. He refers very specifically, even exaggeratedly, to geographical isolation as the cause — NOT a moral or cultural aversion. By his reference to land separated by an ocean it’s also clear that he’s referring to the inhabitants of Scandinavia. There is little reason to assume he means that no Germanic person has ever mixed with anyone else — he’s talking specifically about their origin; he is not looking for individual instances of intermarrying within the recent past, but looking for characteristics which permeate the Germanic peoples that are held in common with other peoples. He believed they literally had emerged out of the ground. I think it is probably safe to say that he was not likely correct.
If we’re going to accept Tacitus’ views on race (gēns) we also have to accept Roman, Celtic, Slavic, and Baltic people as different races (that is, if “white” is supposed to be a race, using Tacitus as a source goes out the window anyway). This means that as soon as the migration age hits, the “unmixed” character of the Germanic peoples that Tacitus observes gets utterly blown out of the water.
So how about you stop policing the beliefs of everyone else, and then crying oppression any time someone finds factual error in yours? You didn’t answer me last time. Your usual go-to argument for how you can justify being a miserable armchair dictator is that you’re not obligated to observe all of the customs of pre-Christian Germanic peoples, but then you cherry-pick anything that, whether by ignorance or deletion of its context, can be transplanted into your narcissistic fantasy worldview, and insist that it applies to others (while the rest of us openly acknowledge that there are elements of pre-Christian Germanic culture that should stay in the past). You’re not much more than a twisted mass of hypocrisy. You can’t indulge your uninformed impulses to dominate the ideologies of others, and then go hide under your cultural isolationism blanket at the first sign that your childish worldview doesn’t actually apply to anything outside of your own fantasies.
If you’re a Universalist, please like or reblog this and I’ll follow you, I’m looking for more Universalists blogs to follow.
natasza stark, beauty equals goodness: a warning
This video is terrible, full of misleading/incorrect information and seems to show everything that is wrong with parts of Asatru today in the USA (and elsewhere).
Asatru was not practiced by the tribes of Northern Europe. Asatru is a reconstructed religion and even the term Asatru was coined very recently. What they did practice was hedendom - Heathenry, “the Heathen Custom”, not “Asatru”. I would expect more from someone who clearly professes to be some kind of leader to the Heathen community.
If this American wishes to peel back the layers and discard labels that have overwritten previous ones to try to claim European ancestry, then why does he stop at Northern European labels such as Viking? Why does he not continue to peel away those layers and identify with the ancestors of those people who came from what is now the Middle East? Or back further still to the source of human life?
We have not been “Europeans for about 40,000 years”. This guy should pick up a book. The beginning phases of even just Indo-European migration began around 4000BCE (making even the claim to “Indo-European” less than 6000 years.
His assertion that people of European descent need to “harken back” to this older identity is a fallacy, as anyone can, and did, practice Heathenry. It is cultural, not transmitted by bloodline. If it was transmitted by bloodline then he himself would not be eligible to practice, since the last 1000 or so years of his ancestors were likely Christian (if indeed they were all from Europe and he had some concrete way to know that).
He should not attempt to speak for “Europeans”, as we are quite capable of speaking for ourselves. We do not need his encouragement to follow Forn Sed, as there are many organisations (tolerant, welcoming and non-discriminatory ones) already well established and with a far longer and richer history than his own organisation.
Thankfully there are some very intellectual, knowledgeable, open and honest Norse Heathens I have met from the USA so I just hope they can establish something better than this ill-informed drivel.
And there ya go, straight from the mouth of a Scandinavian person who practices Scandinavian Heathenry.
“We live in a society exquisitely dependent upon science and technology, in which nobody understands science and technology…”
— Carl Sagan
So I posted that last thing, and then I went to a meeting at work and volunteered to take on something that will mean lots more one-on-one time with students for…probably the next few months.
The rational part of my brain is reminding me that this task has to be done, I’m the best person to do it, and, “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.”
The rest of my brain is screaming, "Why do you do this to yourself?!" Because other than desperately wanting to be a librarian again, a major reason I’ve been looking for a new job is that being in student services already means dealing with waaay more people than I can comfortably handle.
Sorry I’ve been so quiet lately. In-person interactions with people at work and socially have been consuming basically all of my energy, and there’s been hardly anything left for online stuff or my personal projects. I really need to crawl back into my shell for a while. :/
I finished it! In B&W anyway, I might color it later. I probably will.
My version of Ullr anyway. There needs to be more art of him in other aspects than archery in skiing :d
spends probably 60% of her time daydreaming about apartment life with Hot Girlfriend anexpansionlikegold
This is a huge reason I lag on my writing, incidentally
"I think this character has an antler chandelier
…I wonder if Bones would let me have an antler chandelier…”
you can absolutely have an antler chandelier if I can have a lava lamp
I’ve always wanted a lava lamp
lava lamp permission granted
then buy the biggest fucking antler chandelier you can find, jim
are you sure
this is where I spent my vacation
yes I’m fucking sure
…can I have that instead